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Deepening Engagement Together

Alan Senauke in conversation with Kristin Barker


Estimated reading time: 3 minutes
What does our practice ask of us as we bear witness to escalating loss? In this conversation from 2017, Kristin Barker spoke to Berkeley Zen Center abbot Hozan Alan Senauke about social Dharma and collective transformation.
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“Sometimes you may need to work on the system, and sometimes working for social change is actually working with an individual who is in that system. But everything is not reduced to an individual basis, which I think was one of the things that we contested in Buddhism, the idea that all you could do was change yourself. You know, that may be true, but it depends upon your definition of what the self is. The self is not necessarily limited to what I think of as me within this bag of skin. It also includes, right now it includes everybody unseen to me in the circle of this conversation.”

“Buddhism for our point of history is not radical individualism, but a collective vision of our collective fate and responsibility.”

“… it’s a constant question: how are we living? And it’s not just a question of, do I have a hybrid car? In a really fundamental way, I think a lot of it is where does the energy ‚ÄĒ and I mean that in a literal sense that sustains civilization ‚ÄĒ come from? And unless we renounce certain kinds of things, we’re not going to be able to change the essential ground of civilization…”

“I think it goes back to Martin Luther King’s teachings, which, of course, are rooted in both Christian and philosophical traditions. His argument was basically, you love everybody for their human nature, but you don’t love what they do. You resist what they do, particularly you resist it if it seems in opposition to life.”

“It will be painful. And this is exactly where we need each other, because our resilience is not just a personal quality. It’s also a quality that we can offer to each other.”

The full transcript of this conversation can be found here.

Alan Senauke

Hozan Alan Senauke is abbot of Berkeley Zen Center. He received Dharma Transmission from Sojun Mel Weitsman at Tassajara in 1998. As an engaged Buddhist activist, Hozan founded¬†Clear View Project¬†in 2007, developing Buddhist-based resources for social change in Asia and the US. He works closely with the International Network of Engaged Buddhists, is past president of the Soto Zen Buddhist Association, and serves on the faculty of Upaya Zen Center’s chaplaincy program. Alan has been a student and performer of American traditional music for more than 50 years. Hozan is author of¬†The Bodhisattva‚Äôs Embrace: Dispatches From Engaged Buddhism‚Äôs Front Lines.

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Kristin Barker

Kristin is co-founder and director of One Earth Sangha whose mission is to cultivate a Buddhist response to ecological crises. She is a graduate of Spirit Rock's Community Dharma Leader program and now teaches with the Insight Meditation Community of Washington (DC). As a co-founder of White Awake, Kristin has been supporting white people since 2011 with a Dharma approach to uprooting racism in ourselves and in our world. With a background in software engineering as well as environmental management, she has worked at several international environmental organizations. She is a GreenFaith Fellow and serves on the advisory board of Project Inside Out. Kristin was born and raised in northern New Mexico and currently lives in Washington DC, traditional lands of the Piscataway peoples.
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